We are sending two year old, 3" plants, acquired from a friend & grower David Biggert in Florida. They are forming their tight mounds of 1/4in. dark green tiniest of leaves, characteristic of this slow growing holly. This is great for the railroader with not too much time for the plants, since it naturally looks sheared. This will form a 12in. ball in ohhh, about 20 years.